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I'm the same. I don't find Rob's boards easy to surf. I have a Cado, and it feels like a fight with both boards. I have been tempted to get a Seaside, but a few have said the same as you; it is very strange. Some find the models really easy and fun to ride!🤙

Thanks for watching🙏🤙

All I have to say is you rock brother you're the man much love and aloha brother for all the time you put in with strangers like myself and the Surf community to share the love and pass it on is truly amazing because I firsthand understand how hard work it is to edit videos film videos Upload videos and yet alone reply back to comments very very time-consuming so I applaud you, brother 100%

And you're 100% correct I think l'm going for the the brand new 5'4" in helium construction I know it's supposed to be better then the LFT but l'm hoping it doesn't work the opposite and very spot on the 5'3 looks like there's no dings watertight in LFT, but that white turned into brown as brown, could be. The 5'5" in helium is pretty hard to make out because of the pictures and it's taken in the shade and not in the sunlight and if I've been doing my homework right, it looks like an older TOMO graphic design, then TOMO latest graphic designs because I definitely been studying these boards within the past week like a hawk

I went on to dark arts website and I technically don't know what l'm doing. They give you the option of choosing your construction, which is carbon partially carbon and so far the size and dimensions is no problem. It's the construction part where they lose me. The fin box is no problem I would op for futures. And they also give you a color option which I probably would go with the standard black carbon, but then I also be worrying about the wax melting superfast all the time because I had black boards in the past even in the board bag it melts. By the time I got done with checkout from cart it looked to be pricey, roughly $1,500 because of the shipping to Hawaii so I got out of that screen as quick as I could hate pissing off my wife, which I already do most times Surfing does that at times so I might go with the 5'4" brand new in helium even at 29 L is way more than my volume range but l'm sure like you said I will definitely make it work specially for a grovler sometimes foam can be your friend

| 100% know this video wasn't intended to compare EVO vs mashup. It was me just being a brother this past weeks, watching your Clips time and time and countless time again to where I just had to give my honest productive criticism as a brother would look out for a brother, the same way you looking out for us in the Surfing community Young and Old. I totally agree with you about punishing ourselves when it's totally not us, sometimes it is, but it's only because we have high expectations and no our Surfing capabilities because we've been there before and how do one go backwards that just doesn't make sense and that's where frustration comes in because of the video clips we watch and when we try to put it into reality, it just doesn't lineup. where I can honestly say I'm guilty. My wife tells me time and time again. I'm extra hard on myself but you know when it works. It works when it doesn't. Somethings wrong and we have to try and solve the problem.

Sidenote, I've been Hydro foiling for the past seven years and Wing Foiling for the past three years, don't even get me started of the highs and lows where that took me and what l've been through in that error and how much thousands and thousands of dollars and countless hours and months / years I threw away in that sport. But after I found my right equipment, I could stop doing my homework and researching the rest was up to me with putting in the work. Throwing Airs! snapping the lip on foil, Re Entry, Back Snaps! & basically taking it to the limits. Threw my surfing game off! & maybe that's why I didn't care so much of the Evo / Surfing World, because I was on a New Stoke! But 7 years later, I'm finally getting back into ShortBoarding / Longboarding. Now I can go back and forth with Hydro Foiling and Surfing. But my first couple waves take a little time to get adjusted too. Any how brother. We can go on and on. I just

@robcampbell8383 Thank you🙏 That is a 5’6” 32.2L. It was the only one in the shop so I didnt have much choice. I'm 5’11” 78kg. It depends on how paddle-fit you are. I paddled it yesterday and wouldn't want it to be any thinner😂 but I am a little out of shape and only surf a couple of times a week @ the moment. When I was younger, I could ride little slippers with no problem. But from my experience with the Evo, you can ride it longer, and it will still be loose. If you are super fit and paddling a thin board isn't a problem, go smaller. The Helium construction seems more buoyant, so that's something to consider. Mine is an LFT. It's tricky to prioritise volume and length, eh? I ordered a Revo a few days ago and decided to go for the 5’7” 31.4L. After paddling the Evo yesterday, I am worried that I should have gotten the 5’8” 33L. So I'm hoping I can paddle it when it arrives 😂🤞🤙

I am 78kg, and I have the 5’8”. It paddles pretty well. What do you usually ride, litres? I think you could go up if you wanted to; it has nice rails, and the step tail makes the rail line nice and low through the tail. The 5’9” is 34.1L They have done an excellent job of hiding the foam in the board. You have to consider how much you surf and how paddle-fit you are. I'm not always paddle fit because I can't surf every day, so I have to have my boards a bit thicker than I would choose if I were super fit🤙

@@surfingtipsandtricks I surf on al merrick pod mod 5.6 and 31.3 liter I need something that will be easier to get into the waves

@@user-zk2gh7xk8yIt's a similar plan shape to the Mashup; the Mashup looks slightly more high-performance. I think you will feel a difference in paddle power with the 5’8”, But if you want to feel a considerable difference, go for the 5’9”. It's nearly 3L more.🤙

Thanks 🙏, yeah, give it a go. Some find that it lights the board up for them. I was listening to a Tomo interview, and he talked about how a deep concave through the tail sits the board down in the water and acts like a back fin. He was talking about the Revo ( it has a different bottom shape, V and concaves), but the Cado has a deep double Concave running through it; it's the same principle, and if you stick a big trailer in the back, it may make the board stiff. I know how double concaves work, and they squirt speed. I shaped 200 boards and also glassed and sanded them back in the '90s and early 2000s, with no shaping machine and a lot of dust😂 ( I made a lot of fish/small wave boards for myself) but I honestly can't get any speed on this board, and I'm not sure why😂😅 I wonder if that is making the board slow. (maybe it would have been better as quad) I looked at my footage, and the board 5’6 is too big for me. A 5’2 would be the size, but it doesnt have enough volume. If you have the Machado 2+1, maybe try a small Trailer fin. That was my next option. The Machdo 2+1 without a back fin is the best fun I have had on it. I bought the Machado Keels. It just feels slow for me! Good luck at the weekend😀🤙

Thank you so much! Yes, it creates a great bond eh; he's 6’1” now; and bigger than me 😂😂 he is only 16. We are surfing together regularly, and Mum films hence all the footage🙏🤙🤙🤙

@@mingye3893 78kg on a good day😂🤙

@@surfingtipsandtricks 🙌

And thank you again for helping out the Surf community that is tired of breaking their bank and hard-working dollars because we are not sponsored by any means but we just all love to rip shred. Have fun and show off while we do what we love and been doing all our lives

I’m still searching high and low for that Tomo EVO Board as my Groveler. I think if I heard you right you’re a bigger guy than I am and you weigh a lot more than I do and I think you said you ride a 5’6 EVO!? And that even felt too big for you in a sense… Do you think all that foam was helping you generate all that speed you was getting. Because of that boards bottom V shape. has you turning rail to rail easy! Despite having a bigger board? I’m currently riding on 25 L to 26 Liters. Do you think I should go as short as I can? With the EVO? Catching wave ability is not a problem for me. Ripping small boards is not a problem for me. I’m just looking for that ultimate experience and natural high experience YOU EXPERIENCED with the Tomo EVo Love @ First Ride

I’m 5’6 weight 155lbs. Looking at what Evers available on Facebook marketplace, which isn’t much out there. Wishing I could get my hands on a 5’2. But so far, I only came across a - 5’3 x 27.4 Liters in the “LFT” construction Used $ 300 Or - 5’5 x 30.5 Liters in “Helium” construction used $ 600 Or a -5’4 x 29.0 Liters in “Helium” Brand New but $ 920

I didn't intentionally post the clips to compare the Evo with the Mashup, but you are spot on! I have been punishing myself, wondering what's wrong with me and why I can't surf these boards and also having bad surfs. And that is several months on the Mashup. I was frothing to get the Mashup and then the Cado, which, with two sets of fins and grips, is a substantial amount of money as you know. I am a big Rob Machado fan, but your comments say precisely what I'm thinking: I'm not going to surf either board again; I'm going to sell them too. I'll buy a Revo or see if I can get my hands on a Dark Arts version of the Evo and also test some different shapes and brands. I'm stoked that the Revo felt good for you. Thanks for all the positive feedback much appreciated🙏🤙

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They are medium Quad fins; they are Surfer fins. I have used them for years and have two thruster sets and a quad set. Work well for me🤙

What are Surfer fins? Great video, I saw your other Mashup review, which was great but idk still kinda confused not sure. What size and dimensions would you recommend for intermediate + 5’7 155lbs

Surfer fins are a cheaper Chinese brand. What board are you riding now?

@@surfingtipsandtricks well I’ve been out of the water for a few months now with a bad hernia. I’m still not ready to surf but I’m riding a Firewire slater No Brainer 5'4 19 1/4" 2 1/4" 26.0 L

@@scottcuttre9705 Hi Scott, I have a hernia for a year and a half, too!☹️ it sucks! I can still surf, but exercise and too much surfing irritate it. Inguinal? Are you going to have an opp? I'm sure you have seen George's channel on RUclips. He sells some good belts. I bought some and used them for a year. But I had a few issues with them. I will have to check the No brainer out🤙

If you say so🤙

@Unfluencer your bagging out Chinese poptart surfboards. Open your cupboard I bet all your clothes and everything else around your house is Chinese made pop tarts. You wouldn't care one bit, so why would you be bagging out a Chinese pop tart surfboard then? Comment?

@@tezf6883Sorry , I didnt understand your comment at first & that the comment was for Unfluencer, its late here and I just shared a bottle of wine with the the Mrs 😂😂. I totally get what you were saying now (I am not the sharpest tool😂) & thanks 😀🙏🙏🤙

It's funny that I didn't read your comment correctly when I first saw it. I thought it said Chinese pop art. I thought you were having a dig at my thumbnail 😂 Chinese pop tart. I think Firewire is made in Thailand, no?

Thanks, Thomye🙏 my Spitfire is 5’8 ", and I also have a 5’8" Mashup. I haven’t ridden the Mashup for a while. But in the last few surfs, I used a quad set-up, and I like the board a lot more, especially the backside. I found on the backside with 3 and 2+1 I couldn’t get any drive down the line or do backside cutbacks very well. I think I’m going to ride it the next few surfs.🤙

That's interesting, I have nearly bought a Revo a couple of times 🙏🤙

Thank You 🙏 do you find your Revo’s go well in small waves, too? It seems to be designed for better waves, compared to the Evo 🤙

@surfingtipsandtricks had the revo for about a yr. Rode it from thigh high to couple feet overhead. Quad when bigger, 2+1 when smaller. A couple of friends didn't like the revo and said the evo was the one. Mmmmmm don't care as long as I can get waves!

It's great that it holds in a few feet overhead; for me, the Evo isn't great in that size🤙

@@chriswholeland Nice, I will have to try one out🤙

That's quite a jump down in length! what is your weight / height? I'm trying to figure out which EVO to get... : )

@@robcampbell8383 HI Rob, I'm between 70-75kgs and 178 cm tall. It's taken me about 10 sessions to get to stay on more than I fall off, but I love it. I have an Almond r-series secret menu too... it's 5'4 in length and fairly wide, much more of a groveller, but TBH, while it was fun for a couple of sessions, and v low maintenance, I'm going to be using the EVO all the time for a while, unless I'm at a rocky and shallow break or it's a definite longboard day. I hope you find the right EVO for you.

Thanks 🙏Yes you have to keep in on rail for sure. I surfed quads in the 80s they were pretty rudimentary back then😂 its funny I didn't like it as a quad at all. A few people have mentioned the Cymatic, I defo need to try one, thanks for your feedback 🙏🤙

Thank you 🙏🙏 me too!

I have looked at that board a lot, looks super fun!🤙

I always wanted a seaside since they first came out. Some say it is the fastest board they have ridden. Do you own one? I have bought the Mashup and the Cado, and I find them challenging to surf, which is a bit of a bummer. I looked at a few clips of me surfing the mashup the other day when I was considering buying a Revo. And they didnt look too bad, but when I surf it, it's unpredictable, and sometimes it just stops. It has some good moments, too😂 I'm hoping with some practice, I can get used to surfing them, as I was excited about getting them🙏

Had a Seaside in the Quiver for a few years and really tried to master riding it. Never could! Ridden the Mashup and felt it was similar. Just doesn't do what I think it's going to do half the time. I'm a big fan of Tomo's boards. The Revo is nothing like the Evo. It likes good waves. My favourite board of the last decade has got to be the Cymatic. I find it to be really fast and fun in most conditions. I actually got my local shaper to make three different versions of the Cymatic for me!

I forgot to say, I'm sure you'll grow to love the Machadocado. I've just bought one and surfed it once. My feeling is that I never had a surf that good on the Seaside or the Chumlee. The Cado instantly felt like a good high performance groveler to me.

It's great to hear that because everywhere on the internet, people rave about the Mashup, which made it seem weird that I have found it hard to ride. And I was considering buying a seaside.🙏 I have looked at the Cymatic, and when I bought the Cado, Miguel, in the surf shop, rides one and says how good it was. Three versions, I need to test ride one for sure, thanks 😀🤙

Thanks, I hope you're right; I surfed it yesterday with the Machado Keels. My son says I look slow on it😂. I'm starting to get a little frustrated with it. The waves were fat, but it was 4 feet. I surfed it a few days ago with the Machado 2+1 fins but without the trailer fin, and that's the most fun I have had on it so far. I should have got the 5’4, maybe. At the moment, it feels like a dunger. Or perhaps I'm the dunger😂😂😂🤙

I agree about the rail lines and kiteboards; standing wave surfers favour that plane shape, too👍 for me, it's the best groveler I have ever surfed! I can get speed and do turns on close to nothing. Wow, you surf it in well overhead. I find it a bit loose for that. Respect to you 🤙

That's rad! I was checking out his website; he is such a switched-on guy and innovator 🤙

@@surfingtipsandtricksfor sure new one is so good and that quad inside single. Channels the speed and drive is amazing

I'm going to have to get one 🙏

I wish I had got my hands on a helium one so I could surf that now. It is more tricky to surf backhand. You miss that speed if you don't have it, eh? It's hard not to compare over boards to the Evo because it's such a great board! 🤙

Thank you. I will definitely have to give the 2+1 a go for sure. SC Nice spot, sending good vibes from Portugal 🇵🇹 🤙

The Tomo helium Hydroshort what a board that's my go to for all conditions

I have heard good things about that model🤙

Interesting. With the Machado 2+1, I find it a fight with the board. The other day, I tried it with just the set-up without the trailer fin, and that was fun but a little loose. I got the Machado keels a couple of days ago, and I surfed them yesterday, but the waves were terrible. Stoked you have hit the sweet spot 🤙 the Too Fish looks fun and cruzy. I really would like to surf that board and the Seaside🤙

I’ve been on market place all night searching for an Evo. There is some busted up ones lol. That Dark Arts look super sick 👌🏽 but not for $1,350 Dollars. No Thank You! At least not right now!!! Thanks 🙏🏽 to YOU I’m trading my 5’5 SeaSide for a 5’4 REVO. So Stoked Man!!!

Question? Would you go Higher Volume on the EVO or is it cool to down scale or ride it at your normal liters 🙏🏽 Thank you again for HELPING EVERYONE WIN 🏆 Just for that! I SUBSCRIBED 🌎🙏🏽

That's Rad, let me know how it goes🙏🤙

That's a good question; mine is too big for me, but it was the only one. The 5’4 “ would have been better. It's a great paddler, and with the duckbill nose, it catches waves early. I like to catch lots of waves ( like everyone 😂), and I'm not surfing every day so that volume benefits me. I think if your paddle fit, you can go smaller. It depends on what your priority is. Even though mine is a little oversized, I can still throw it around. Thank you for the kind words and subscribing.🙏 let me know how the Evo goes for you🤙

It makes you wonder why they stopped making them. I quess they weren't selling anymore. I would love a DA; I would also like to try the Vada. The speed that board has🤙

Hit Tomo up here in Australia . He is back making them In eps

Thanks 🙏 I just checked out a few Moonbeam videos, and that board looks rad; it's a shame they stopped making it. I must get a Revo, but I bought a Mashup and A Cado. And if I buy a Revo, I will probably want to surf that🤙.

I'm with you, on the Dark Arts Evo🙏🤙

I'll check it out!🙏🤙

I nearly bought a Revo the other day. There was a €300 discount, but I didnt act quickly enough. Yeah, they go well, eh? I have an EVO, Sci-fi, Mashup, Machadocado and a beat-up Spitfire 😂 🙏🤙

@@surfingtipsandtricksGreat surfing Mike! How would you compare this Evo with your machadocado?

Thanks 🙏 I just bought some Machado twin fins to see how they go with the Cado. I'm reluctant to judge the board more until I have surfed some decent waves in it. I have been trying to surf it more like a Twin Fin for the last few surfs to change my approach. The Evo was an instant winner for me. I surfed it a few weeks ago and loved it instantly again. I'm a big fan of Rob Machado, and I feel I'm missing the point somehow. I will definitely put out some more content on the Cado when I have it 🙏🤙

@@surfingtipsandtricks few years ago I ride the first model of the Sweet Potato and I feel the last version is a really good upgrade for turns and speed. Same feeling with the Cymatic to the Revo with a better pivot and less drift on large quad fins.

Your making me want to buy a Revo 😂🤙

Thanks 🙏🙏🤙

Thanks for your comments and positive feedback! I haven't tried a Sweet Potato; you're working your way down in volume! 🙌Yes, the guys are excellent at the Boardshop; I bought a Tomo Sci-fi from them years back; they are super helpful. Yes, the Dark Arts version looks lush. I wouldn't mind get my hands on one of those😃🤙

Thank you 🙏🙏🤙

​@surfingtipsandtricks what Thruster Fin were you running in the Evo?

I have a set of medium surfer fins. (Chinese) they weren't that cheap, though They seem to work great🤙

Thanks, Paul 🙏🙏🤙

@@surfingtipsandtricks it’s good to see a review from someone who can actually surf really well, instead of people dissecting a surfboard and they cant even surf. Keep up the great work 👍

Thanks for the positive feedback, Paul. I appreciate it🙏🙏🤙

Thanks Ben🙏🤙

Yes, the keels loosen up the board. Would love to know how Robs keels work with the board before I spend any more money 😂👍 I think that for me, the only way I'm really going to have fun with it is to surf it as a twin fin. I saw a new video with Kevin Schulz comparing the Too Fish with the Cado, and he was catching rails on the Cado ( 2+1 set-up). Granted, the waves were really hard to ride with a lot of backwash. He does one great layback! But the Too Fish is looking much more fluid🤙 ruclips.net/video/TG0SPfMlmBc/видео.htmlsi=u-d8Am_fBHSHf0aK

@@surfingtipsandtricks watching Schulz on a tiny 5’2 just further reinforces in my mind that I should’ve gotten the 5’6” instead of the 5’8”. With the width in that tail and the bottom contours I think the lift created would warrant running a bit lower volume than expected. I went up in volume with the 5’8” compared to my regular shortboard think “It’s a groveler, a little volume won’t hurt”. But I can’t help myself from wanting maximum responsiveness. Might get my hands on a 5’6” and compare before deciding which to keep.

Yes, I think that's true; for me, the 5’6 feels like a bit of a lump of a board and feels slow. Probably, the 5’4 would have been a better option. I still haven't surfed it in ideal waves, but I have surfed it in the sort of waves I surf a lot. It's great that you can change them🤙 I thought the comparison Kevin Schultz did with the Too Fish (high tide session) I thought he was catching rails on the Cado!

@@surfingtipsandtricks based on the template, the 5’4” looks like the best fit for me, but it’s too thin. The dims going up the range are scaled oddly. 5’4” is an inch wider than the 5’2. 5’6” is barely wider than the 5’4”, but the 5’6” is actually thicker than the 5’8”. Yet the 5’8” is nearly 3/4” wider. 5’4 if it were 2 1/2-2 5/8 thick would be ideal

That is odd sizing. Sorry I haven't replied quicker, RUclips hasn't been notifying me

I think you're right about the bottom shapes. The Mashup and the Cado feel like they have resistance and don't easily project down the line-particularly the Cado. “Suck into the Face” is spot on just surfed the Cado in 5-foot, fairly powerful waves, and it didnt feel great; I'm pretty disappointed, but I will have to keep going and hopefully master it. With deck grips and fins, it was 1k for each board🙁

Yes, it does go really well in Mushy Waves and will go vertical. It is one of the best boards I have ever owned. I rode it the other day (it's really brown now) in really bad small surf just before I bought the Cado, and it still flew!

@@surfingtipsandtricks Thanks for the reply, legend. Sounds perfect. Now to find one ha. Cheers!

I can get my hands on a 5 8’ Evo at 35.6 litres. Worried it might be too big for me? I’m 6ft 85kg. Advanced intermediate. Chasing a high performance feel. What are your thoughts on sizing? Many thanks!

I think the 5’8 would be fine; I ride the 5’6. I could have surfed the model below, but the 5’6 was the only one. I am 5’11 and 78kg. Great you can get your hands on one!🤙 here are some videos of me surfing it: I could have ridden the smaller model, but it didn't take away any enjoyment of riding that board. ruclips.net/video/1Q6D1srQU2E/видео.htmlsi=pW8YR4zvyCXthusF ruclips.net/video/uV_HK1b6Vcc/видео.htmlsi=qXWDGcyRxNEPnydH ruclips.net/video/R9C1gYbeAJg/видео.htmlsi=D9HyHajauv5lgwrC

@@surfingtipsandtricks cheers! Thanks for the info. Ripping in those vids!

Yes, you could be right. I surfed the Evo and a board made by Ferox ( the flexter), which has a similar outline but a more drawn-in tail. Those boards would go fast in tiny waves. But let's see, I hope you are right 🤞🤞

Yes, I will give it a go for sure! 🙏I have the F1 Future 2+1 with a smaller trailer, which I need to try.🤙

Yes, I don't usually have a problem jumping from board to board. But the MashUp and the Machadocado are a challenge for me anyway 😂

Thanks Paul! 🙏🙏

Take the Evo every day over an avocado

5’ 6” three fins set up; I didnt like it as a quad🤙

​@surfingtipsandtricks so Evo your favourite over the Cado?

@tezf6883 I was just making a comparison. I still have that Evo, but I have surfed it to death, and I don't really want to surf it anymore. I'm definitely going to keep riding The Cado. But I was surprised by how slow I looked on it. Maybe it's the conditions that I have surfed it in so far 9 second wave period summer surf, not much wall. In the clips I am fighting to keep it going on some sections. When you watch Rob, he is going so fast without much effort. Maybe I am surfing it wrong 😂 I have had 5 surfs on it so far 🤙

Thanks🙏 It's night here. I will measure it tomorrow. I remember hearing somewhere that the Cado front fins were placed so that it would surf as Twin, but I can't remember where I heard it. 🤙

10 inches, 25.4cm

@@surfingtipsandtricks awesome thank you for checking that helps out a lot, I’m going to order the NVS convertible ono twin fin which should help moving the fin a little further back for my board setup. Thanks again for the video and response.

Cool, let me know how it works out🤙

Thanks Frank🤙

Coming soon!🙏

💯I like it a lot more as a twin fin, so far🤙

Thanks Paul 🙏Algarve Portugal 🇵🇹 near Aljezur🤙